I have had more than one conversation with liberal friends and acquaintances in which my counterparts have told me that Sarah Palin was the biggest mistake that John McCain made. Most of those folks are not far left but rather merely liberal. As such, while they would be natural opponents of Palin, they wouldn't necessarily have such a visceral reaction.
I have heard these folks describe her using such words as stupid, uncultured, a zealot, and utterly unprepared. They have pointed to several bad performances in interviews, her sharpened and vulgar attacks on Obama (palling around with terrorists is the one most mentioned), and what they view as out of the mainstream beliefs.
These friends and colleagues laugh when I suggest that Palin is the future of the Republican party and that I believe she will be our candidate in 2012 (if not then certainly in 2016).
There are several things that need to be made clear about Palin. First, I believe that the McCain campaign mishandled Palin in a nearly politically criminal manner. The problme was NOT that she had a couple of bad interviews. Every politician since the beginning of time has bad interviews. Every politicians says dumb things in interviews. So what. The problem is that they left the Couric/Gibson interview hanging without allowing her to do more to overcome how poorly she had done. The MSM did a gotcha game as they should have expected. So what. Why wasn't she all over television so that these gotcha moments could be countered with other interviews.
The reality is that Sarah Palin viewed by some as some sort of imbecile because she didn't identify what Charlie Gibson meant by the "Bush Doctrine", couldn't name three Supreme Court cases off the top of her head, and couldn't recite McCain's legislative work on regulation. So what. This would have been nothing more than a blip had she become a fixture all over television, radio and the internet. The McCain campaign had found their secret weapon, Sarah Palin. She was interesting, intriguing, and people were drawn to her. Then, she had a couple of bad interviews and they hid her away so that no one could get to her. Why? No one will be flawless each and everytime they are in front of a camera. The campaign should have let her make mistakes but move onto the next interview. Instead, they allowed two bad interviews to define her.
Second, as the Vice Presidential candidate, she is the attack dog. Of course, she will hit Obama hard. That's her role. The fact that some find her attacks offensive and over the top is a sign that she is managing her role as she is supposed to do. Of course, liberals find her characterization of the relationship between Obama and Ayers "palling around" offensive. It's a sharp attack, and supporters aren't going to like it. If she had treated Obama with kid gloves, liberals would likely have found her "charming". They still wouldn't have voted for her but she would have been charming. That, there is a visceral reaction to her is a sign that her attacks are as sharp as they should be.
Third, the MSM has done everything they can to demonize her. The level of hate and venom to the Governor is unprecedented when directed at the Vice Presidential candidate. Everyone from feminists, gun control advocates, to late night comedians have taken an extraordinary amount of pot shots at her. If you get the bulk of your news from MSM, then no doubt you will find Governor Palin some sort of a stooge. Of course, we all need to keep in mind that most of the people taking pot shots at her are political opponents. Some have made hay of the likes of Kathleen Parker and David Frum, both conservative pundits, that have come out against Palin. Yet, Palin is still almost universally adored in the Conservative movement. You are never going to please everybody, and Obama has plenty of detractors on the left. It's just that the media, in love with Obama, pretends they aren't there.
The same things that first drew Conservatives to Palin are still there. She is still quite charismatic. She still has about an 80% approval rating in Alaska. This didn't happen by accident and it didn't happen because she governed like some extremist. Often in debating said liberals, they downplay her accomplishments in Alaska by saying the state is small. It's as though cutting taxes, reducing government, and fighting corruption is somehow easier in a small state than somewhere else. I'm always reminded of a friend of mine who attempted to change cable companies in his condo. He joined the seven member cable committee. He went to every meeting including through the months of January-April, when he an accountant was in the middle of tax season. Try as he might he couldn't get the rest of the group to see that the cable company, RCN, wasn't the best choice. The point of the story is that change is hard anywhere: D.C., Juneau, or on the condo cable committee. The idea that Palin's accomplishments are inconsequential because they were done in Alaska is the height of elitism.
She is still the same infinitely fascinating hockey mom, turned PTA mom, turned city coucil woman, turned mayor, turned whistleblower, turned Governor who hunts, fishes, and once won a state championship in basketball on a bad ankle.
Make no mistake. Sarah Palin is going to be a political force for years to come. She has arrived and she isn't going anywhere, win or lose tomorrow. Like any other political force, she will continue to irk her opponents for years to come. Just ask Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. Whatever mistakes the McCain campaign has made one of them was NOT choosing Sarah Palin as the VP pick.
Agree. point by point.
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ReplyDeleteThe media could play "gotcha" as you put it because they knew she was ignorant.
Ignorance is crime at this level of politics.
She is "real" because she knows about as much as the average ignorant citizen. She doesnt read much.
I want a person smarter than me to govern. Not someone the same as me.
The idea is to actually have some knowledge so you can answer questions.
The fact she didn't know some answers to basic questions is worrying because it shows she has very little curiosity in wanting to understand the world around her.
This suggests a close-minded person. How can such a person, with such a narrow mind, possibly govern in our increasingly diverse and interconnected world???
This is not a question of her just "studying up" and knowing the answers next time. In order to form views on things you need to have read a lot and have a broad philosophical grounding. What is hers?
Just to recap [as documented on youtube]
1.She could not name a newspaper she reads for her daily information.
2. She felt being close to Russia indicated foreign policy experience.
3. She could understand the implications of the bailout.
4. She could not name a Supreme Court decision other than RoevsWade.
5. She could not name a single instance when McCain had voted against deregulation.
If you think she is the future of the Republican party then i suggest the Democrats will be very happy.
The media was going to play gotcha regardless. It wasn't that she didn't know basic questions but rather she didn't know the gotcha questions that were asked.
ReplyDeleteThe "Bush Doctrine" has many different tenet, and so, without knowing what Gibson was talking about, it is difficult to answer.
Again, what you are doing is focusing on the first two interviews. She eventually did dozens of interviews, but yet you are totally fixated on the two bad ones.
Your entire impression was formed by two interviews, that's silly.
She held her own and then some in the debate. She did just fine in dozens of interviews following these two. She isn't closed minded, that is just the impression you have of her. She is the only one of the four with a history of governing successfully. As such, the idea that you are concerned about her governance when you voted for a novice legislator as President is stupid.
We will see what her future holds and many a Republican, Reagan and Bush included, were underestimated by folks like you to your detriment.
Interesting you assume I am not a conservative.
ReplyDeleteI saw a woman totally out of her depth throughout the campaign. Not just in two interviews.
I note she had an interview with Hannity. He wont ask her tough questions because he already strongly agrees with her. She was never again put in a situation where she would be challenged by any liberal or center media station.
She was hidden from the press. This is a widely acknowledged fact. This is also why, following the disastrous CBS interview, McCain came on with her the next time to "hold her hand".
I think the debates showed had a bunch of memorized answers with which she would give regardless of the nuance of the question she was asked.
This is why she tried to cover herself at the start of the debate by saying she might not answer the questions the way the moderator liked it but she would talk directly "to the American people." This is a cover so she didn't have to think on her feet and adjust her answers according to the type of question or in response to what Biden said. Because thinking your feet takes real knowledge and understanding, and that is what she doesn't have, nor is capable of having beyond a shallow understanding.
She has confidence and "pluck". But I see through it. I see an ambitious but mentally limited person. [compared to Obama, Biden or McCain]
Obama, indeed has limited experience. There is no denying thaat.
But he as FAR superior knowledge and understanding of world affairs. He has a developed philosophy. He is FAR more intelligent than Palin.
I dont want a person just like me to govern [which is the erroneous feeling of so much of small town America].
You should choose someone of superior intelligence and understanding. There were so many other good conservative choices who weren't so divisive and far more qualified and knowledgeable [I am a Conservative by the way]
I don't underestimate Palin nor Bush. I see limited people supported by an electorate with limited knowledge. So I don't doubt she will be quite popular.
But being popular and actually being the best person for the job are two different things.
Interesting. I really don't care what you are, except to say that she is overwhelmongly and universally loved by Conservatives. As such, if you are conservative, then you are in the overwhelming minority.
ReplyDeleteMore than that, I didn't say what ideology you were. I didn't even mention ideology in my description. I really don't care.
What I said was that your entire impression was formed from two interviews. If you come to the exact same impression as the average liberal, that is your business. It won't change the fact that you would be in the overwhelming minority of conservatives, if that's what you are.
Furthermore, if you saw the VP candidate as in over her head but weren't concerened with the suitability of the Presidential candidate on the other side, you are also totally hypocritical. Palin is not only just as qualified for the office but more so, and she is the VP.
Obama has less experience but I see him as "capable" in mind and character. That is the key distinction. Palin might be a Governor for 20 years and I will never see her "capable" because she is fundamentally narrow and lacking a broadness of vision rooted in a well-thought out philosophy. [Christian Fundamentalism is not a well thought out philosophy.]
ReplyDeleteYes I am in the minority of Conservative. But I have support for my views.
My thinking was influenced by former Reagan speech writer Peggy Noonan [a conservative], David Brooks [a conservative] and Kathleen Parker [ a conservative].
These are all respected Conservative columnists. But I am considered by Palin supporters to be an elitist when I voiced my views. Could it be I just want a really smart person in office?
Sorry, I thing we can do better than a reasonably uninformed redneck [who is admittedly quite hot]
I suppose we will see in the future. I am quite sure [unfortunately] she has political plans. And I am quite sure she will get a lot of support from
certain sections of the party.
Nice debating you. I might write in some other points too. Good site!
First of all, there is no one more universally loved right now within the party than Sarah Palin. That's why it is ludicrous to point out that some conservative pundits don't like her. It's totally irrelevant. No one has more support within the party than Palin.
ReplyDeleteSecond of all, you see Obama as more effective in things that are totally subjective, entirely intangible, and impossible to measure. That's great but frankly, in my opinion, it isn't much of a ringing endorsement to say that he is more effective in "mind and character" since that is something that is entirely in the eye of the beholder.
Palin stood up to the corruption in her state while Obama got into bed with the corruption in his state. Thus, its difficult to see how his character is stronger. Everyone of his political allies is a crook from the corrupt Chicago, Cook County, and Springfied. His "political godfather" is the crook Emil Jones. His neighbor is convicted crook, Tony Rezko. All of these connections are not very positive of his "character".
Noonan, Frum, and Parker are not necessarily "respected conservative thinkers". they are merely the three conservatives that don't like Palin. If you just happened to be influenced by them, you were trying to find someone that didn't like her.
You are elitist because of comments like "uninformed redneck". That is the epitome of elitist.
Palin really is that bad. She should not have any future in American politics because she lacks skills, intelligence and morals. Her best accomplishment in her personal life has been to raise a disgusting whore for a daughter.
ReplyDeleteShame on you people for thinking Palin would be anything but damnation on our country.
No, what's really bad is when someone merely attacks another with personal insults and then isn't able to back that up with anything of substance. Last I checked, being Governor, a successful one, is a much bigger accomplishment than an anonymous poster. As such, if you question her abilities, back it up with something of substance.
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