That is what I thought of when I read analysis of Barack Obama's proposal for a windfall profits tax on oil companies. I have no use for the oil companies and I have stated my disgust toward them. That said, taxing a company more for being more successful only discourages companies for being successful. The reason everyone is in business is to maximize their profits. Now, Barack Obama is telling not just oil companies but all companies that if you are too successful you will be punished. Philosophically, that makes no sense. We want all companies to be as motivated as possible to make as much profit as possible. Imposing so called windfall profits tells companies that at some point they need to stop making money.
Beyond that, the Wall Street Journal raises an excellent point...what exactly is a windfall profit...
Mr. Obama didn't bother to define "reasonable," and neither did Dick Durbin, the second-ranking Senate Democrat, when he recently declared that "The oil companies need to know that there is a limit on how much profit they can take in this economy." Really? This extraordinary redefinition of free-market success could use some parsing.
Take Exxon Mobil, which on Thursday reported the highest quarterly profit ever and is the main target of any "windfall" tax surcharge. Yet if its profits are at record highs, its tax bills are already at record highs too. Between 2003 and 2007, Exxon paid $64.7 billion in U.S. taxes, exceeding its after-tax U.S. earnings by more than $19 billion. That sounds like a government windfall to us, but perhaps we're missing some Obama-Durbin business subtlety.
Maybe they have in mind profit margins as a percentage of sales. Yet by that standard Exxon's profits don't seem so large. Exxon's profit margin stood at 10% for 2007, which is hardly out of line with the oil and gas industry average of 8.3%, or the 8.9% for U.S. manufacturing (excluding the sputtering auto makers).
How will Barack Obama measure a so called windfall profit? Will he draw a line in the sand on a certain number? Wouldn't that merely discourage work like it did for Reagan and his colleagues? Barack Obama dismisses the number one rule of taxes. Taxes are a form of punishment. That which you want to punish you tax. By taxing windfall profits, what Barack Obama does is punish the maximization of profits. Now, I don't believe for one second that the oil companies are playing fair. Yet, the way to punish their behavior is not by taxing them.
Politically, this makes even less sense. That's because the folks want politicians to provide solutions that will lower the price of gasoline. They aren't looking for scapegoats or demons. They are looking for something, anything, that will tangibly decrease the price of gasoline. It is just that simple. In no way will taxing the oil companies even more lower the price of gasoline. In fact, it may lead to higher gas prices. This sort of demonization politics might work with other issues, but not on gas. The public is far too engaged to fall for the sort of class warfare that Barack Obama is practicing. The public is wholly unconcerned with what the oil companies make except as it relates to what they pay themselves. Unless Barack Obama can make the link between his windfall profits tax and lower gas prices, this is a failed political strategy. Giving a nebulous reference to alternative energy research, something we have been doing for decades, is not enough. The irony here is that Barack Obama is engaging in exactly the sort of political gimmicks that he accuses John McCain of engaging in. If Barack Obama insists on making windfall profits and forced conservation the centerpiece of his energy policy, he will hand that issue to McCain in the fall.
Two points you need to understand.
ReplyDelete1. if Regan really thought he'd take home less money if he made 3 movies, wow, said to think he was the president of our country. That argument is complete bull. As a CPA, I feel qualified to say that could virtually never happen. When you get "bumped" to a higher bracket, you only pay taxes at that rate for only the portion of your income that falls into that bracket.....not one rate for all of your income.
Regan needed better friends.
2. Do you really think the oil companies....the most greedy companies in the world... are going to stop trying to make as much money as possible b/c a tax is imposed on them? Oh, no, they'll still try to make as much as possible.....as they should.
Your entire theory based on "hell, if I'm going to get taxed, I might as well not even try to make money" is lame and not reality.
Lastly, can you please address the issue of oil companies not actually operating in a free market. For example, Coke and Pepsi operate in a free market. They can charge what ever prices the market will bear. If prices at Coke get to high, people can drink Pepsi instead. In that case, the Government stepping in and taxing Coke or Pepsi for "making too much money" would be ridiculous.
Let's look Oil Companies.
They operate in a market where prices are set by a price-fixing cartel in the middle east (OPEC). The oil companies drill for oil on American soil, then sell it for $140/barrell because that's the price set by OPEC.
As a consumer, I have to pay whatever price the oil companies say I have to pay. I have no choice.
I could ride a bike or the bus, but do we really want OPEC controlling our country in this manner?
Oil companies do not operate in a free market. In cases like this, the Government's role is to step in a protect it's citizens.
Would Republican's be singing the same tune if OPEC decided tomorrow that oil will now be $350/barrell?
I'm for a windfall tax, as well as stipulations that say you can not sell oil drill in our country for more than a reasonable profit margin.
Drilling in Texas and selling at whatever OPEC says the price should be is bullcrap.
We might as well let Iran drill in Texas and sell our own oil back to us at whatever price they choose
A few points, you weren't a CPA in the 1930's when Reagan was an actor. Since he is one of our greatest President's your cheap shot is a hubris of the worst kind. He didn't have bad friends, we had extremely punitive taxes then.
ReplyDeleteAll taxes create less incentive so yes, I think some of the motivation will be taken away. Will they stop trying, no, will they try less, yes.
The price of oil is NOT determined by OPEC. It is determined by the market it is traded in, though of course OPEC influences that market significantly by how much they pump or don't pump. Of course, we don't fill our tanks with oil. We fill it with gasoline which is a derivative of oil. That price the oil companies determine. The margin that they make on top of what they pay to make the gasoline is what they determine.
I agree that they don't operate in a free market and that's why I called to break them up. A windfall profit's tax is useless.
In your theory you use a lot of vague words that can take on whatever meaning someone wants. Windfall profits, reasonable profit margin, how is this determined? Your idea is more regulation and more government interference.