tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post6253830467669254317..comments2024-03-18T17:01:07.165-07:00Comments on The Provocateur: No Time To Rest On Health Care Reformmike volpehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02999118519606254362noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-57637840670926553942009-10-15T10:07:54.081-07:002009-10-15T10:07:54.081-07:00America does not want Nationlized, government take...America does not want Nationlized, government takeover of our healthcare, or rationing, and certainly do not want to go to jail because we are forced to buy it!<br />And adding a $250 'carrot' to the Seniors who oppose it most, then hit them with the big 'stick' later, by denying medication because it is too costly, is utterly ridiculous!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-6977612564750190562009-10-15T09:45:01.017-07:002009-10-15T09:45:01.017-07:00Single payer is even less popular than this bill, ...Single payer is even less popular than this bill, though that would have some strong support. This has support but no one that is excited about it. That said you live a liberal fantasy world. You aren't going to be able to expand the party and keep it all liberal. If the only democrats in Congress, both chambers, were liberal you'd have a lot fewer of them. The same is true of Republicans and that's why I said it's counter productive for Reps to attack the NRSC for supporting Crist. You don't have the votes for single payer. You'll never have the votes for single payer. That gets about 30-35% approval among the public. <br /><br />The Democratic party is ready for reform, but that's governance. You don't have a bunch of people all believing the exact same thing. That's not how this works. You have multiple different interests all wanting their own agenda. That's the difference between leadership and chaos. If you can put it together for a good piece of legislation that passes you're a leader. If you allow it to spin out of control you aren't. It's that simple.mike volpehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02999118519606254362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-33006519710625922982009-10-15T09:14:38.598-07:002009-10-15T09:14:38.598-07:00Obama is negotiating this in private largely becau...Obama is negotiating this in private largely because he has no choice. This is what you get when you have to appease corporate-centrist democrats like Max Baucus and Kent Conrad. This is what happens when you tolerate disloyalty from people like Joe Lieberman and Rahm Emanuel. This is what happens when you make getting Snowe or Collins to vote yes more important than passing a good bill. You're forced to plan your moves before you move, and that can only be done in private.<br /><br />In the end I don't think it will pass. Not because I don't think America is ready for health care reform, but because I don't think the Democratic Party is ready for health care reform. In time, the Democratic leadership will undergo some turnover, replacing the corporate centrists at the top with younger, more liberal politicians that more closely reflect the makeup of their base. At which point they'll probably make a new push for single-payer, but who knows how far into the future that would be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com