tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post6010478758499436102..comments2024-03-18T17:01:07.165-07:00Comments on The Provocateur: Seniors Are Scared of Obamacare...and They Should Bemike volpehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02999118519606254362noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-32752581527014910502009-08-03T08:31:04.804-07:002009-08-03T08:31:04.804-07:00It's in the bill. You can call it a lie but I ...It's in the bill. You can call it a lie but I am quoting the bill. So, what does politifact say about the part of the bill that says that there will be end of life consultations. Is that a myth? What exactly is part of pages 425-430 if not end of life consultations. If it isn't mandatory, what does it mean when it says that you have to do it if it hasn't been done in the last five years?mike volpehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02999118519606254362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-42672244369193463032009-08-03T07:24:35.652-07:002009-08-03T07:24:35.652-07:00http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements...http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/23/betsy-mccaughey/mccaughey-claims-end-life-counseling-will-be-requi/<br /><br />Politifact calls this claim about mandatory end-of-life consultations a "pants on fire" lie.Mike Krugerhttp://edlabor.house.govnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-82250107425069176892009-08-02T07:15:48.090-07:002009-08-02T07:15:48.090-07:00First, I am glad you left your website because tha...First, I am glad you left your website because that tells everyone that you are in fact biased and not merely an unbiased observer. You benefit from this plan. <br /><br />This other law that they are amending. What does that plan say exactly? If there is an allusion to having this consultation to the last five years, why is it in there if not to mandate it?mike volpehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02999118519606254362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-69221719927783688282009-08-01T22:55:35.141-07:002009-08-01T22:55:35.141-07:00The words "the individual involved has not ha...The words "the individual involved has not had such a consultation in the last five years" doesn't mean it's mandatory. The section states that it's an amendment to another law. It amends the section in that law that sets forth the BENEFITS that Medicare recipients get.<br /><br />What you are calling "legalese gibberish" is what tells you that the section is amending another law, and it's not unimportant to know that.<br /><br />The problem here is that non-lawyers are trying to read this bill and know what's in it. And they are making these kinds of errors. This is not intended to be a criticism of you, because this mistake did not originate with you, I'm guessing.<br /><br />This is one of the problems involved with having the public try to decipher legislative language.<br /><br />If I were you, I would do some questioning of people who are in a position to know Section 1861 of the Social 18 Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395x) is being amended by this provision. Contact your congressional representative, perhaps.<br /><br />I hope you won't also be affected by the incorrect stories about "medical homes" that's been appearing on the Web. That story, that residences of sick and old people are going to be created, is also false. A "medical home" is a term of art used in health care administration -- it's not a building.<br /><br />See http://www.medicalhomeinfo.org/joint%20Statement.pdf.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-73083488317015941772009-08-01T13:45:07.976-07:002009-08-01T13:45:07.976-07:00It's right at the beginning of the section. Th...It's right at the beginning of the section. There's a lot of legalese gibberish and then it says,<br /><br /><br />"the individual involved has not had such a consultation in the last five years".<br /><br />So, first it sets out all the parameters for those that will receive it and then it says you'll receive it if you haven't had such a consultation in the last five years.mike volpehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02999118519606254362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-46363893997002931872009-08-01T13:07:34.817-07:002009-08-01T13:07:34.817-07:00I've tried to locate the place in the bill tha...I've tried to locate the place in the bill that states that the advance-care consultations are mandatory, but I cannot find it. Can you tell me where the bill states this? Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-54298986427132034192009-08-01T06:34:26.292-07:002009-08-01T06:34:26.292-07:00Now that we have had time to absorb the full weigh...Now that we have had time to absorb the full weight of how this proposed law insults and destroys liberty and prosperity, I think the conversation should start to include several other questions such as: where do the people who are writing this stuff really want to take society? What values motivate these provisions, what kind of secular utopia do these people think they will construct with such an architecture? Who would volunteer to live in such a place?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com