tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post170517880406212350..comments2024-03-18T17:01:07.165-07:00Comments on The Provocateur: Tracing the Roots Of Anger, Frustration, and Shout Downs At Town Hallsmike volpehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02999118519606254362noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-18611346974321732102009-09-02T21:58:02.802-07:002009-09-02T21:58:02.802-07:00No one knows what's in it. The people aren'...No one knows what's in it. The people aren't stupid. The bill is over a 1000 pages. That is a government take over. There is all sorts of stuff you can put into a bill when there's one thousand pages.mike volpehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02999118519606254362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-16275955728376866322009-09-02T18:11:10.864-07:002009-09-02T18:11:10.864-07:00Wow, that is a ridiculous statement. The pols who...Wow, that is a ridiculous statement. The pols who wrote the bill don't know what's in it but the protesters do. So like what, is everybody to the left of Ronald Reagan some sort of third-class citizen to you? Because that's the impression I get from these protesters, that their angry that conservatives aren't the only ones who matter anymore.<br /><br />Your tea party attendance figures are ridiculously inaccurate. Fivethirtyeight.com projected no more than 311,500 people at 346 events. An average of about 900 people per event and a maximum of 15,000 in Atlanta. And the 4th of July events were substantially less well attended.<br /><br />You also haven't demonstrated your movement has ANY support outside the 30% of Americans who still like Dick Cheney.<br /><br />I didn't hear you complaining about the size of the PATRIOT Act. And since when is 1000 pages that much for such a sweeping piece of legislation. You act like the size and scope of the bill is per se evidence that its bad, but if people agreed why did your party get so viciously spanked in 2006 and 2008?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-20914694549580257002009-09-02T11:34:16.257-07:002009-09-02T11:34:16.257-07:00Good enough. You can side with the pols and I'...Good enough. You can side with the pols and I'll side with the protesters. There's so much absurdity I don't know where to start. <br /><br />The one in Skokie attracted somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-5 thousand. The April 15th tea party attracted more than a million people nationwide. Ditto for the July 4th protests. The one on 9-12 will attract tens of thousands. Every pol says that the town halls are the biggest they've ever seen. So, your whole thesis is not backed by anything real.<br /><br />As for the protesters, a lot of people believe a lot of stuff, but if you think that the pols know more about what is in the bill than the protesters you are fooling yourself. The bill is over 1000 pages, 53 new bureaucracies. No one knows what's in the bill because what's in the bill is inexplicable. That's what the people are screaming about.mike volpehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02999118519606254362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-73284280834939246672009-09-02T11:10:58.172-07:002009-09-02T11:10:58.172-07:00"The people simply don't believe any of t..."The people simply don't believe any of these talking points."<br /><br />Well of course they don't. But considering a lot of these people also believe a lot of stupid things (like Obama being a Muslim from Africa and "40 million illegals") you'll have to forgive me for believing the politician over the protesters.<br /><br />That, combined with the protest group's small size (their message doesn't get much support outside of the 30% of Americans who still like Dick Cheney) and a strong argument can be made that these shout downs are inappropriate.<br /><br />If you went to see the movie Footloose at your local cineplex, and like 15% of the audience stood up the entire time screaming "THAT'S NOT KEVIN BACON" is that appropriate? They're not right, and its not what you came to the theater to see, so why should I have to put up with it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com