tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post1695356919954512480..comments2024-03-18T17:01:07.165-07:00Comments on The Provocateur: Israel, Palestine, and Iran: A Riddle Wrapped in an Enigmamike volpehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02999118519606254362noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-15167117570546037642009-05-19T12:56:00.000-07:002009-05-19T12:56:00.000-07:00Iran's "nukes"??? What "nukes" would those be, the...Iran's "nukes"??? What "nukes" would those be, the imaginary kind? Sort of like Iraq's "WMDs"??? when will you sheeple learn?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-89519779275022001512009-05-18T15:30:00.000-07:002009-05-18T15:30:00.000-07:00Of course, they would give a nuke to either or bot...Of course, they would give a nuke to either or both Hamas and Hezbollah. They would also likely build more than one so that they would protect themselves against invasion. They are a lot less likely to use a nuke offensively than they are to hand a nuke to someone else. Once you build one nuke it is easy to build many. <br /><br />As for Netanyahu, he has been PM about two months. as such he hasn't poured anything anywhere. I absolutely believe that if he thought his country and economy would be secure, then he would take an operation until its final conclusion. I don't think that is the case now. <br /><br />I absolutely believe that the best way to resolve any of these and all of these crises is for Israel to totally destroy anyone of its enemies.mike volpehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02999118519606254362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-6208675833557210552009-05-18T15:05:00.000-07:002009-05-18T15:05:00.000-07:00You seriously think Iran would give Hamas or Hisbo...You seriously think Iran would give Hamas or Hisbollah a *nuke*? They could barely smuggle food into the Gaza, much less a large, bulky device of almost prototype quality that would probably leak radiation like mad. Even if they tried such a thing, you think Egypt would allow that to happen?<br /><br />Even if Iran can or wants to build a weapon, they'd be insane not to keep it for themselves as a deterrent to a potential US invasion.<br /><br />Sometimes I think you forget that Ahmadenijad has absolutely no authority and will probably be unceremoniously trounced in the election on June 12.<br /><br />And if you think Netanyahu is going to send his own men into the West Bank when both he and Obama are pouring boatloads of cash and weapons into training Abbas' men to do the job for them then you're letting your disdain for Palestinians cloud your analysis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-66247221873258386652009-05-18T14:17:00.000-07:002009-05-18T14:17:00.000-07:00I didn't equate anything. I said everything is wra...I didn't equate anything. I said everything is wrapped together. Who do you think would take said nuke if and when Iran gets it. It would almost certainly be either or both Hamas and Hezbollah. <br /><br />They wouldn't need to expel every man woman and child. In fact, what it would take is excellent intelligence by Mossad et al. With every captured and killed Hamas you get information about the next one. It's a vicious cycle. Once they push all the way through the West Bank, then they are in the middle of Hamas' territory. Then, they get excellent intelligence and pick them off one at a time. It takes a long time but once the senior leadership is destroyed everyone else falls apart. <br /><br />I agree that Hezbollah is much more difficult though you are loon if you think that Israel needs to convince anyone that Hezbollah isn't out to destroy it. nasrallah isn't shy about his intentions.mike volpehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02999118519606254362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3098264341625381422.post-76933113399806880672009-05-18T13:40:00.000-07:002009-05-18T13:40:00.000-07:00First off, I don't see how or why you equate Iran'...First off, I don't see how or why you equate Iran's nuclear weapons program with its support for Hamas and Hesbollah. Iran is perfectly capable of doing one without the other.<br /><br />There is no way short of evicting every man, woman, and child from Gaza that Israel can achieve any sort of permanent destruction of Hamas. And that is something not even Netanyahu, or even Avigdor Lieberman, has considered. So I don't see why you have "no doubt that Netanyahu would see such an action through." As for Hesbollah, Israel can barely convince anyone that Hesbollah cares about anything other than keeping Israel out of Lebanon and nothing more. Not to mention that unlike Gaza, Lebanon isn't filled with just Hezbollah and its civilian supporters.<br /><br />I have never believed much in the idea of an Iranian nuclear weapons program. Iran is much more interested in a conventional weapons program of things like stealth aircraft, UAVs, DU armor that can withstand APFSDS rounds, and anti-ship missiles.<br /><br />Finally, your peace plan isn't really a peace plan at all. You're just advocating the US take one side in a war and support that side until it wins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com